I have to ask where in Clear sky is this weapon found? SHIELD unit 06:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
- Probably Army Warehouses, near the barrier. Can be obtained from Freedom or Monolith soldiers. Octurion 11:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Um, the GP 37 can actually be obtained as a reward for capturing the neutral camp for the Bandit faction. It can also be upgraded from the Bandit upgrade NPC.
There are only two ways to get the GP-37 in Clear Sky. The line above me states one way; join the Bandit faction and finish their campaign. The other way is to complete the side mission "Return the artifact Flame" in the Army Warehouses. Any Freedom soldier, Loner, Duty soldier, or a Merc will give out this mission if you've done the previous side quests. You get 120 AP rounds for doing this one as well. After tier 3 upgrades, it outperforms the FN F2000 in every way. Grey and Limpid can perform tier 3 upgrades. --Boredgunner
I realize that I'm essentially reviving a dead part of a talk page, but what do you mean when you say "previous side quests"? I've checked literally every single friendly person in the Army Warehouses who has the "How can I help you" option when you talk to them, and none of them seem to be able to give me anything. I've tried this both before and after taking the army base, and neither time have I had any luck. The Freedom checkpoint above the village (the one you pass through on your first entry into the area) was taken out by Duty before I got a chance to check them, if that makes any difference. Thanks. TheDesertFox 11:37, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the recent edit Edit
I just wanted to imply that the design is not an exact recreation of any existing G36 model/variant (whatever it's K, KV or any other variant...). Octurion 14:03, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
I see but downgrading the realism standards to videogame graphic levels, most of the default weapon textures used by STALKER are strikingly accurate to their real world counterparts. SHIELD unit 14:58, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Playing more as a covert-ops kinda guy, this weapon serves nicely when fitted with a silencer and some armor piercing rounds. However, it doesn't have the "mach-0.9-Brick-to-face" effect of the Vintar BC with SP-5 rounds...
With only every so often an encounter where I need a large clip and a fairly rapid-fire solution, is it really worth it to keep this rifle around?
I'm referring to ShoC, though I suppose the ease with which the Vintar BC can be found in CoP means this question can be asked for that title as well.
In SoC, the G36K is not as powerful or as accurate as the Vintar BC (VSS Vintorez), but offers a higher rate of fire and a much larger magazine (3x as large). In Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat, the accuracy of the G36K after upgrades is around the same as a fully upgraded Vintar. The Vintar however is more powerful, and can have an auto-targeting scope upgrade unlike the G36K. However the G36K has almost no recoil, so headshots are very easy. In Clear Sky, this gun has the highest rate of fire before and after upgrades. I don't think that applies to CoP, I think the OTs-14 Groza now has the highest rate of fire, not to mention high damage and good accuracy. I believe the Vintar is overrated, I much prefer the AS Val. It offers a larger magazine, and performance is around the same except the Vintar is still a tiny bit more accurate (despite the fact that they are essentially the same gun, just different furniture...). In CoP, the AS Val shoots faster than the Vintar as well.
Aye, it's not really a contest between the G36 and the Vintar in CoP. After upgrades the VAL can have superior 'cqc' stats to the Vintar, and if you manage to acquire the targeting scope you have, essentially, a Vintar with a 30 round mag. The Groza's also much faster firing after upgrades, with the FT 200M close behind. The G36 is more a sharpshooter rifle as a result, as it can't really compete with any of those guns in close quarters. LonerDeacon 21:37, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
Redundant content Edit
"(short in English), the G36K had a shorter barrel than the G36."
Do we really need to have this here? 'What is G36K' and 'the differences between K and other variants' are explained in the related wiki article. Octurion 14:34, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
It's for a quick summary. The Kurz is a variant of the G36 series. SHIELD unit 00:23, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
G36 vs. G36K in SoC Edit
- That first picture is a G36KE, which is slightly different than the G36K. But yeah, it isn't based on any particular G36 variant. Boredgunner 19:18, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- It's an odd case. Look at the number of... vents (for lack of a better word) in the front handguard. The G36K has four while the full-size G36 has six. The in-game model has all six vents but a shorter-than-standard barrel, so what we're looking at here is simply a normal G36. It has a full-length handguard, but a slightly shorter barrel that is not quite as short as that of the Kurz.
- Just for interest, the "E" suffix (e.g. G36E, G36KE) means Export. The only significant difference between the German Army and Export versions of the G36 series is the sight system in the carry handle, the German Army rifles have a dual-sight system (one is a magnified 3x scope, the other is an unmagnified reflex sight), while the Export versions are simpler and just have one 1.5x scope and backup iron sights. The G36 model in game has the dual-sight system. --MattyDienhoff «talk» 08:34, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone else unable to edit this article? I mean, it just shows up as a bunch of code for me. Boredgunner 17:09, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- It's working correctly for me. Try to wait for a while and then edit the page again. Octurion 17:15, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
Cs and Cop Stats Edit
I didn't remove any Cop or Cs stats. Octurion 17:15, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
GP-37 SoC damage in infobox Edit
Just wondering how the wrong value was left unnoticed for so long, despite SiG SG-550 (which does slightly less damage) having the correct value in its infobox... M0RGION 22:01, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody really bothered to check the values in the game files. We assume that edits are corect unless proven otherwise. Tagaziel (call!) 10:00, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
In-game model and burst fire Edit
While the trivia section already informs the reader about the full sized G36 vs G36K, there's still some false information in there. G36K carbines with the standard dual optics do (or did) exist and have been delivered to the Bundeswehr in low numbers (Navy boarding teams etc). Since the standard dual optics have been proven to fog up real quick and lose its zero when dropped hard (which can happen to a military rifle), the Bundeswehr actually started phasing them out and replace them with other sights. Most of them still use the same carrying handle with the 3x scope (like the export variants), but with a picatinny rail on top and a Zeiss reflex sight instead of the integrated red dot (these rifles are known as G36A2). The G36K were likely one of the first to get new optics (due to the more elite units using them), the upgraded variants are known as A1 and A2 with either a G36C style rail or G36E style carrying handle with picatinny, both of the variants use EOTech sights. Now this information is not very useful for the article, I just wanted you guys to know.
What is very important and should definitely be mentioned in the article is the fact that the G36 rifles in the STALKER series seem to converted H&K SL8 rifles (the civilian variant). The SL8 has an extended receiver to make it impossible to use the G36 folding stock and trigger group on this rifle. There are several workaround to create some G36 look-alikes with an SL8, but all of them have this massive block of plastic between part where the bolt is and the hinge of the sock, unless you'd shorten the receiver (which could destroy the weapon if done wrong). And creating a trigger group that enables automatic fire would require some serious modification from a gunsmith. It is likely that the devs used a modified SL8 for their modeling, as it is easier to get your hands on a semi-auto rifle than on a fully automatic assault rifle.
The trivia section also suggests that the G36 has a semi-auto and 2-round burst mode. This is NOT true. As a former Bundeswehr soldier (conscription, hooray ...) I have handled some G36 rifles, put like 600 rounds through it and also shot it short bursts. The G36 is fully automatic, if you can control the muzzle climb (which is still surprisingly strong given the weak recoil of the 5,56mm round) you can empty a whole mag with one trigger pull. 22.214.171.124 21:00, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
Well, this is interesting, I'll add and delete the appropriate trivia now. Though, you mind explaining a bit further why is it that the GP 37 is based more on the SL8 if you will?
SHIELD unit 00:20, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
- Sure: Have a look at this: CLICK This is a real G36 used by the Bundeswehr. Note the folding stock is pretty much exactly behind the pistol grip, at the end of the receiver. The end of the receiver is pretty much a straight, vertical line.
- Now have a look at the SL8 with the default stock/grip: CLICK - the receiver has this triangular shape at the end (which i marked red for you in paint) and a different design on the bottom to make sure you cannot use the G36 pistol grip and folding stock. There are aftermarket parts for the SL8, such as pistol grips and folding stocks, to make it look like the G36. One example of such a conversion i found on google is this: CLICK - this seems to be a pistol grip with receiver extension which makes it possible to mount the folding stock, but there's a fairly large block of plastic between the pistol grip and the folding stock because of the triangular shape of the longer receiver (compared to the real G36). Other solutions i've seen enable you to mount AR-15 stocks or fixed stocks (which really look like the G36 stock, but are not folding). And these conversions are still semi-auto only, you would need to seriously alter the trigger group to enable full auto fire (so the gunsmiths of the zone did one hell of a job on these weapons, as this requires serious knowledge!).
- All G36 rifles found in the zone have the receiver of the SL8 with the triangular shape at the end and the large block of plastic as a reveiver extension so they could mount the folding stock, just look at the pics of this page, you'll notice it on any of them.
- Any more questions about the G36? Feel free to ask, I will provide any knowledge I have. [I wrote this answer earlier today, for some reason it was not displayed on the talk page unless you clicked the edit button - let's hope it works now.] 126.96.36.199 15:08, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the info, I'll add everything that explains why the GP 37 was modeled off an SL8 convert than the real weapon.
SHIELD unit 15:01, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
A normal rifle!